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This is what I am (probably) going to order before the week is out. The only thing I'm really looking at changing is the hard drive because I heard that Best Buy has a Western Digital 120 gig w/ 8 MB cache and ATA 133 instead of the ATA 100. Your opinions please. http://secure.newegg.com/app/WishR.asp?ID=230049 Edit: the damn "url" tag doesn't seem to work. I guess cut-and-paste is the order of the day. Edit (again): After I took the "url" tags off it suddenly becomes a link. hmmm.
Posted By: Buk @ 2003-02-03 06:53:30

J0k digs the chaintech boards, and they look to be mad fast :) If you can possibly throw some more loot in there, grab a 512 Stick of GeIL DDR :wub: I'm not familiar w/ Raidmax, but the PSU looks cool. Personally, I dun like dual fans PSU's thanks to Enermax :p A guy bought a 8mb cache WD, and said he really got no bonus from the Cache. Dunno, I never had a 8mb Cache drive yet either :p What Video card you looking to throw in that beast? :)
Posted By: Pic0o @ 2003-02-03 08:27:41

I have a GeForce 3 ti 200 w/ 64 mb of RAM. I figure that will hold me until I can afford a better one :) I picked the Raidmax psu because I read a few good reviews of Raidmax power supplies (it was only $4 more to get the one with the pretty lights too!) The RAM I picked because of the price and I plan on getting more later anyway. I would really be interested to hear from anyone that has a HD with the 8 MB cache to see if it really does make a difference because I could save some cash if there was no noticable improvement.
Posted By: Buk @ 2003-02-03 10:51:03

The 8mb info I mentioned is Heresay, so I'll try to find aoem reviews for ya to give you an idea :) Word to the GF3 :) No probs w/ that card :wub:
Posted By: Pic0o @ 2003-02-03 11:51:43

HD I would lose the WD 120Gb and roll an IBM 7200RPM 120GB. The seek time is better. I also think the IBM is quieter. CPU I would save some mad bling chedda and roll a 2100XP RAM Take the money your saving through the CPU drop and buy some bling Corsair Platinum PC3200 CAS 2 512mb of course :) Motherboard I am itching to play with one of them, so props to that pick. Powersupply I am hard core Sparkle. To me, there isnt many other brands.
Posted By: J0k3r @ 2003-02-03 17:14:59

Why would you drop from a XP 2400+ to an XP 2100+ ? My original plan was for an XP 2200+ and I changed it at the last minute. The IBM drive I will look into I was told on another board to skip the 8 MB cache and go instead with ATA 133 so that is a distinct possibility. I will also look into the Corsair RAM but I can't see getting PC3200 because my frontside bus would be a chokepoint anyway (thats why I am going with PC2700) Thanks for the advice.
Posted By: Buk @ 2003-02-04 10:29:24

j0k :wub: 's to fight :P He mentioned the downgrade in CPU to open the door for a better RAM purchase :) I had some slower DDR before, but after I saw the benchies and speed j0k was hitting, I pulled 260+ out for a 512mb or Corsair Platnum :p By my theory, the better RAM you have, the more luck you'll have w/ overclocking (providing you look to do so) :)
Posted By: Pic0o @ 2003-02-04 12:07:45

[quote:0663661620="Buk"]Why would you drop from a XP 2400+ to an XP 2100+ ? My original plan was for an XP 2200+ and I changed it at the last minute. The IBM drive I will look into I was told on another board to skip the 8 MB cache and go instead with ATA 133 so that is a distinct possibility. I will also look into the Corsair RAM but I can't see getting PC3200 because my frontside bus would be a chokepoint anyway (thats why I am going with PC2700) Thanks for the advice.[/quote:0663661620] CPU (Why I would drop to a 2100) The 2400 costs way too much for what you get. You could get a 2100XP, unlock it, and have a lot better results. Not too mention save around $100.00 RAM I dun understand how you could say your ram speeds wont be any where close considering I run my RAM @ 456mhz CAS 2 and mad performance timings throughout. This is how it breaks down. 152mhz FSB (152 x 2 = 304mhz) While my RAM gets 228mhz (228 x 2 = 456mhz) So, I hope I showed you why the RAM purchase would be needed, and the CPU drop would be the smartest move. HD ATA133 is overrated. I would be truely shocked if you could tell a difference between 100 and 133. IBM's have proven themselves to be top of the line performers since back in the 300a days. Actually even before then.
Posted By: J0k3r @ 2003-02-04 13:52:17

I wouldn't be overclocking it as it would be my primary P.C. and I'm not comfortable enough with overclocking to risk my computer ( I would be afraid of screwing it up and toasting my P.C.) I have been thinking about OC'ing my current computer ( an Athlon 1.1 ghz ) after I get my new set up. To understand where I stand let me reveal my current PC specs; Athlon 1.1 ghz MS- 6340 micro ATX mobo 256 MB RAM ( when I bought my RAM I didn't know I needed buffered and I got 2 256mb sticks and if I run more then 256MB my computer goes into a restart cycle that won't end until I manually shut down my computer) GeForce 3 Ti 200 w/ 64 MB of RAM 40 GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive 60 GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive As you can see [b:9128c4cc3a]anything[/b:9128c4cc3a] would be an improvement on my current system! I will look to see if I can find the Corsair cheap (it is obviously great RAM just a bit more $$ then I can come up with unless I start giving handjobs in the Wal-Mart parking lot :( ) I just found out that Best Buy has a 120 GB Maxtor with an 8 MB cache and ATA 133 for $199.99 with a $70 mail in rebate. I imagine that will be my Hard Drive because I trust Maxtor more then Western Digital. Once again thanks for the advice.
Posted By: Buk @ 2003-02-04 23:26:10

just realised some thing that every one has missed the mobo takes 8x agp cards.. but he has a 4x agp card (just remember the slot is not backwards compatible but the card is)
Posted By: shim @ 2003-02-04 23:38:30

Incorrect shim. My board is AGP 8X and I was able to use my Geforce 3 in it :) Soyo KT-400 Dragon Ultra Platinum
Posted By: J0k3r @ 2003-02-05 00:57:07

[quote:deb6364991="Buk"]I wouldn't be overclocking it as it would be my primary P.C. and I'm not comfortable enough with overclocking to risk my computer ( I would be afraid of screwing it up and toasting my P.C.) I have been thinking about OC'ing my current computer ( an Athlon 1.1 ghz ) after I get my new set up. To understand where I stand let me reveal my current PC specs; Athlon 1.1 ghz MS- 6340 micro ATX mobo 256 MB RAM ( when I bought my RAM I didn't know I needed buffered and I got 2 256mb sticks and if I run more then 256MB my computer goes into a restart cycle that won't end until I manually shut down my computer) GeForce 3 Ti 200 w/ 64 MB of RAM 40 GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive 60 GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive As you can see [b:deb6364991]anything[/b:deb6364991] would be an improvement on my current system! I will look to see if I can find the Corsair cheap (it is obviously great RAM just a bit more $$ then I can come up with unless I start giving handjobs in the Wal-Mart parking lot :( ) I just found out that Best Buy has a 120 GB Maxtor with an 8 MB cache and ATA 133 for $199.99 with a $70 mail in rebate. I imagine that will be my Hard Drive because I trust Maxtor more then Western Digital. Once again thanks for the advice.[/quote:deb6364991] Why wouldn't you overclock the new pc? I understand you do not know much about it. But that is the reason you are buying the equipment you are. If you are not going to overclock (Which is totally fine) I would not buy what you are buying then. You are buying hardware that will be blowing everything out of the water when overclocked. However since your not overclocking you will not see the true power of the hardware which you are purchasing. When you purchase corsair ram you are buying the ram for the overclockablity/stability at higher then stock speeds. Non-overclockers should not purchase any of the hardware that overclockers due. They can save tons of money by purchasing cheap generic stuff vs high end equipement designed to give you higher speeds and more stability at thoes higher speeds. One thing thoe, dont get me completely wrong, I wouldn't recommend you go out and buy a piece of shit like Asus or anything. But understand the board you are looking to buy. You may think that chaintech is the route to go but if your not going to be overclocking it why bother? That board has tons of features and could provide you with speeds far greater then you could ever dream of, however you would be running it stock. That in itself destroys every kick ass aspect of that board. I think what you did was ask around on boards and got some info about some kick ass hardware. But you never asked why the hardware is kick ass. PS> I am terriblely stoned and wanted to type. PS>PS> I wanted to ask, isnt the new pc being your primary one more motivation to make it faster?
Posted By: J0k3r @ 2003-02-05 01:04:29

I picked the motherboard because I wanted the SPP and MCP-T chipsets. My first choice for a mobo (and the one I've wanted for almost a year) was the Soyo Dragon Ultra Platinum like you have. I picked the Chaintech because it got a great review in Tomshardware and I will probably want to overclock it in the future. Right now I would be happy with the way the system is at it's normal speeds. I do plan on adding more RAM in the near future but for now the Kingmax will work. Edit: I was looking at RAM again and found for about $9 more I could get the Geil RAM Pic0o recommended. I added it to my list and removed the Kingmax that so offended you :wink:
Posted By: Buk @ 2003-02-05 02:04:53

well the specs of the 8x musta changed since it came out.. cause i know alot of sites sayin the slot wasnt backwards compat. but the card was..
Posted By: shim @ 2003-02-05 05:23:44

[quote:15d5156df7="shim"]well the specs of the 8x musta changed since it came out.. cause i know alot of sites sayin the slot wasnt backwards compat. but the card was..[/quote:15d5156df7] Thats just one of the many hundreds of reasons you should never give thoes sites any props. Most of them are complete morons :)
Posted By: J0k3r @ 2003-02-05 14:14:23

[quote:3218e397ff="Buk"]I picked the motherboard because I wanted the SPP and MCP-T chipsets. My first choice for a mobo (and the one I've wanted for almost a year) was the Soyo Dragon Ultra Platinum like you have. I picked the Chaintech because it got a great review in Tomshardware and I will probably want to overclock it in the future. Right now I would be happy with the way the system is at it's normal speeds. I do plan on adding more RAM in the near future but for now the Kingmax will work. Edit: I was looking at RAM again and found for about $9 more I could get the Geil RAM Pic0o recommended. I added it to my list and removed the Kingmax that so offended you :wink:[/quote:3218e397ff] W3rd to your purchasing
Posted By: J0k3r @ 2003-02-05 14:16:41

I sent my order 5 minutes ago :dance:
Posted By: Buk @ 2003-02-07 02:22:53

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